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    Old 21st March 2019, 14:51   #121  |  Link
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    Thank You, guys, CRU 1.4.1 with DisplayID also solved my above mentioned issue. That's what I did:
    - wrote down the madvr timings, removed the madvr created custom resolution, then restart
    - in CRU 1.4.1
    -- add DisplayID to Extension blocks and set it as the 1st entry
    -- set madvr timings and set Pixel clock and Native as well

    It's a big help to get rid of a major annoyance, now I can set 23p as the default refresh rate of the TV

    Btw, I still use the Display Changer II util to easily manage 2 displays.
    I managed to get CRU to create proper refresh rate, but it also disappeared after a reboot... Oddly, DSR resolutions stick fine. The CRU-based resolution would disappear after reboot regardless of whether DSR was enabled or not. I didn't use Extension blocks though...
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    Old 21st March 2019, 15:43   #122  |  Link
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    I didn't use Extension blocks though...
    Then use it
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    You directly contradicted what two of the most influential developers (Madshi and Nevcairiel) had already stated, by suggesting that the issue with metadata passthrough might not be a bug or might even be desirable (it is a bug and it isn't desirable), and that the API support will be deprecated (it won't and the bug is expected to be fixed in the next major branch release). You also questioned the data that I've produced with the Maestro. The references you posted where not relevant for various reasons, which I explained. That's confusing and unhelpful. Have you read the thread, including the last few pages, or are you just posting randomly?

    But if you want to keep posting on the subject, please go on, it's a free forum
    It would help if you would understand what I am saying.

    The short version:
    - applications that do not use fullscreen exclusive mode can not expect min/max/avg luminance values to be sent as-is to the display, because the Windows display compositor is the one that actually mixes the output of all the applications (some HDR, some SDR, each with their own settings) on a common surface, and the parameters of that surface are used to tonemap the content and get exposed to the display.
    - an application which does use fullscreen exclusive mode however, might be entitled to expect its min/max/avg values to be the one advertised to the display; this is the only case where the issue may be seen as a bug.
    - the presentation that I posted has the nVidia guy saying that turning HDR on changed with the release of Windows RedStone 2, which brought the initial HDR support in Windows; that doesn't mean the NvApi is not going to work anymore, but the path forward for proper support of HDR for windowed (borderless and not) applications is through the Windows DXGI API.
    - I did not "question" in a malicious way what you did, as you seem to have interpreted it; I wanted a clarification out of curiosity; the explanation that the driver was simply advertising an avg luminance fit for your projector would have been simpler to explain the low 20 nits value you noticed; but since you added afterwards that you are getting the same with a display monitor, then this simple explanation is not true.

    The references I have posted are very relevant and helpful. But you have to watch/read and understand them.

    If madshi or nevcariel find what I said to be wrong, they can easily speak against it themselves. I doubt they will have much to speak against of, though.
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    It would help if you would understand what I am saying.

    The short version:
    - applications that do not use fullscreen exclusive mode can not expect min/max/avg luminance values to be sent as-is to the display, because the Windows display compositor is the one that actually mixes the output of all the applications (some HDR, some SDR, each with their own settings) on a common surface, and the parameters of that surface are used to tonemap the content and get exposed to the display.
    - an application which does use fullscreen exclusive mode however, might be entitled to expect its min/max/avg values to be the one advertised to the display; this is the only case where the issue may be seen as a bug.
    - the presentation that I posted has the nVidia guy saying that turning HDR on changed with the release of Windows RedStone 2, which brought the initial HDR support in Windows; that doesn't mean the NvApi is not going to work anymore, but the path forward for proper support of HDR for windowed (borderless and not) applications is through the Windows DXGI API.
    - I did not "question" in a malicious way what you did, as you seem to have interpreted it; I wanted a clarification out of curiosity; the explanation that the driver was simply advertising an avg luminance fit for your projector would have been simpler to explain the low 20 nits value you noticed; but since you added afterwards that you are getting the same with a display monitor, then this simple explanation is not true.

    The references I have posted are very relevant and helpful. But you have to watch/read and understand them.

    If madshi or nevcariel find what I said to be wrong, they can easily speak against it themselves. I doubt they will have much to speak against of, though.
    It looks like you are just dumping posts and not reading the thread, so I'm out
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    That... or you don't understand what I'm saying.
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    That... or you don't understand what I'm saying.
    Sure. Still, I'm out
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